R – Yesterday William Welna posted on his own blog a short private e-mail chain between himself and the FBI agent whose name Jennifer Emick had already revealed through her own stupidity. I seriously doubt if Welna had permission to publish that e-mail. I also seriously believe that being extremely disrespectful, insulting, and outright accusing that very agent of being corrupt, (and then publishing that accusation), is probably not the best way for Welna to get that FBI agent to view Welna’s lies and lack of evidence in a favorable light.
E-mail sent to an FBI Special Agent follows – Published by the sender, William Welna…
Just wanted to send my regards to the leak around Neal/Kelly. I rather found it amusing. So these are the people you refuse to prosecute and ignore their crimes against innocent people for no reason? I think Jen might have briefed you on (redacted) and I just want to tell you to personally suck my cock.
I’m sick of being swatted, stalked, and harassed by your “good information sources” and I’m doiing something about it now due to your lack of competence or blind eyes? I heard you were sworn to uphold and protect the law not shit on everyone because it’s easier to arrest kids you are spoon feed. I rather liked the “But Neal gives us great info on Anonymous” part, I found it really pathetic.
So when I first contacted you I really did want to and had an interest in going after the real criminals but silly did I know you let them operate. So what’s the trade in now a days? Like…. say… 3 kids running LOIC for a get out of free card for a felony or two? You are worse and more corrupted then anything I have ever imagined.
I’ve rejoined Anonymous for a few months now and have retaken my roles. As much as your silly “good information sources” tried ruining my life and destroying my relationship inside Anonymous after they got found out we were talking I’m still here. Swatting attempts that got 7 armed police at my door ready to shot me didn’t kill me and trying to pay / hire people to come kill me and Jen hasn’t worked either.
P.S. I heard it’s raining infragard
R – umm…yeah…lemme be one of several billion people to say that’s really not the best way to approach an FBI agent, or any other law enforcement personnel, about anything. As the Special Agent demonstrates with authority in his response to William Welna…
As if to further demonstrate his own complete and utter lack of ethics, respect, class, morality, and worst of all, education, William Welna happily attempted to Fisk, (or to Render with chainsaws), the Special Agents e-mail in his blog post.
Special Agent -
That’s a lot of info to take in. I don’t know if u were sober when you wrote this and I only respond so that you understand what it is I am trying to do, as you rejoin Anonymous. And no, I did not know about your (redacted) and I assume you reported this to your local FBI office? I am not really in direct contact with Jen anymore, as I have been assigned to work other matters.
William Welna – Why would I report it to the local FBI office? Anytime anything is reported especially when Kelly and Neal’s direct involvement always results in no actions. I’m not dumb and I see something going on here. I litterally have stacks of intel that was apparently sent to you guys and I just fail to see how they can walk free. Something is wrong here when you can commit felonies and get away with it. I guess it’s all good as long as they keep giving you “good intel”.
Special Agent – I don’t appreciate your anger towards me personally but I do understand your frustrations. I am frustrated as well, because of all the drama and lack of evidence. In the real world, I need evidence of a federal crime, and even if I obtain the evidence, it has to be approved by a federal attorney to actually go to court. It’s not like it is on TV and I know that frustrates you and others as well because you don’t understand how the system works. My question to Jen, you, Neal or whomever is “where is the evidence?”
William Welna – I noticed you like calling it all “drama”, are breaking federal laws and felonies “drama”? As for where is the evidence I’m not the only one sick of it and the only time I’ve ever seen the FBI do their jobs when it’s related to media coverage. There is plenty but no one apparently wants to do anything unless it effects them somehow.
Special Agent – In order to do my job, I have to communicate with good guys and bad guys. Things are not always as they appear Will. In fact some people are very good at taking one thing and making it look like something it isn’t. If anyone breaks federal laws (criminal intrusions), and the crime occurs in the geographic area that I work (I don’t work the whole country), and my boss approves it, I pursue them. If its not in the area I work, I forward the information to another FBI office. That is why I wanted you to contact your local FBI office, because I can’t work everything! I take my job seriously and I am not corrupt, nor would I put up with anything remotely close to that.
William Welna – I just don’t understand how people can walk around free for years commiting felonies in public, have it reported, and nothing ever comes of it so what am I supposed to think? Nothing really is as it seems, I got to see personal examples of that done to me. I never thought I’d see Infragard members tampering with my stolen desktop in a bad attempt to get me using their knowledge of forensics. Like, how more fucked up can that get? This is what I see and what am I suppose to think? Granted it was a fruitless attempt and I think you can name off a few reasons why it was. All I see this all over and attempts to ruin not only my life but others as well. I’m not doing any of this just for me but for all the others that have been targeted like me and I will make it end.
Special Agent – The kids who used loic do not compare to those who actually intruded into systems. But what did you expect would happen when they are shutting down so many businesses? Ignore them? The evidence was there!
William Welna – That’s like arresting a kid with a plastic fly swatter for attempted murder. LOIC never has taken any business offline and never will. What takes them down are the botnet operators in control of mass infected systems. I’m not excusing their actions as they were malicious but it’s really not going to do a damn thing to stop anything.
Special Agent – So much of the crap that goes on with the drama is NOT a federal matter and falls into civil court. Why don’t you look online and find the federal laws you think I should use? I don’t make this stuff up, it has to be a law. Read them and see what I am dealing with before you accuse me of being corrupt.
William Welna – No, these are not civil matters at all. Do you think I’d be mad if it was really just civil? I am aware of the law but if you think this stuff is civil here is a wiki page that might help you (insert Wiki link to Computer Fraud and Abuse Act here)
While I’m at it → (insert Wiki link to Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act here)
Also threatening to kill people including cops on a public blog is civil? Can you help explain that to me? Why was Barrett Brown arrested for it?
Special Agent – (heavy redaction) but don’t turn around and blame me for not doing my job. You want Kelly or Neal to be arrested/prosecuted, come up with evidence of a federal crime, legally and give it to your local FBI office.
William Welna – If you want to know why you can take a look at Infragard, Kelly, and Neal. I’m not dumb and I have copies of close to everything sent to the FBI by multiple people. I just don’t see how they are still walking, I really don’t. I think the public is going to agree with me on this.
Now for the fun part…
William Welna – “Why would I report it to the local FBI office?”
R – Now now little Willie, be patient and read all the way through the nice Special Agent’s email before you flip out. I’m certain he will attempt to enlighten you of your misconceptions and perhaps educate you a bit in the process.
William Welna – “Anytime anything is reported especially when Kelly and Neal’s direct involvement always results in no actions.”
R – Again little Willie, I must counsel patience here (and seriously, move beyond Sun Tzu, try Clauswitz or Jomini). I have no doubt that the Special Agent will use really small words in an attempt to help you understand that there might be a valid reason why all of your attempts to implicate Kelly Hallissey, (and apparently an extremely large number of other people as well), in any number of crimes have gone straight to the /dev/null file.
William Welna – “I’m not dumb…”
R – Stop right there. Yes…Yes you are extremely dumb. In fact I believe that the only person that I’ve seen involved in all of this who is dumber then you, is Mike Stack.
William Welna – “…and I see something going on here.”
R – There there little Willie, the visions will go away as soon as the drunk wears off.
William Welna – “I literally have stack of intel that apparently was sent to you guys and I just fail to see how they can walk free.”
R – Little Willie, did you ever stop to consider that the FBI might have investigators and analysts who are all individually considerably better and better educated at their jobs then you and all of your little playmates ever will be? Maybe your “intel” was utterly worthless before you and your little friends passed it in?
William Welna – “Something is wrong here when you can go and commit felonies and get away with it. I guess it’s all good as long as they keep giving you “good intel”.”
R – Little Willie, the very next time they let you out of the barn, I want you to run along and take a long hard look into a mirror, there should be one in the bathroom. There you will see at least half of what is wrong here (the other half are the Studnose Stalker Jennifer Emick and the not so mysterious Michelle). After all you’ve already freely admitted several times to passing your “intel” along to known Islamic terrorist groups, haven’t you? And it’s pretty obvious that you and Mike Stack leaked at least some of your “intel” directly to Anonymous, isn’t it? Don’t worry, the screen shots and Tweet ID numbers are preserved for posterity.
William Welna – “I noticed you like calling it all “drama”, are breaking federal laws and felonies “drama”?”
R – Little Willie, there might be a really good reason why the Special Agent is calling it all drama, because without any form of valid legal and legally obtained evidence, that’s all it is. That’s what my legal advisers told me when you tweeted a stolen photo of my mothers house back in May of 2012. That’s what my legal advisers keep telling me each and every time that you and Jennifer Emick have targeted Kelly and her family since then. It’s all just drama if there is no evidence, isn’t it little Willie?
William Welna – “As for where is the evidence I’m not the only one sick of it and the only time I’ve ever seen the FBI do their jobs when it’s related to media coverage.”
R – Oh my little Willie, you do understand that just because you stamp your fat little feet as hard as you can and hold your breath until you turn blue that last sentence is not an answer to the question of “where’s the evidence”? Perhaps you missed the kind and very forgiving Special Agent telling you that it’s just not like it is on TV? You do understand that TV is media, right? If you are sick of it now, perhaps you should have thought about that when you were playing footsie with Sabu last April and May of 2012 and plotting with him how you were going to ruin our lives?
William Welna – “There is plenty but no one apparently wants to do anything unless it effects them somehow.”
R – If an FBI agent with many years of field experience is asking you where the evidence is, then perhaps you have not given him any evidence of anything illegal, have you? Take a hint.
William Welna – “I just don’t understand how people can walk around free for years committing felonies in public, have it reported, and nothing ever comes of it so what am I suppose to think?”
R – Little Willie, the kind FBI agent is paid to think about these things, you are not. There are innumerable extremely good reasons for that.
William Welna – “Nothing really is as it seems, I got to see personal examples of that done to me.”
R – I’m told that overdosing on cough medicine will cause hallucinations and eventually lead to liver failure. Is that real and personal?
William Welna – “I never thought I’d see Infragard members tampering with my stolen desktop in a bad attempt to get me using their knowledge of forensics.”
R – So sorry there little Wille, but to the very best of my knowledge no Infragard members touched your desktop at any time prior to it being handed over, still sealed, to the FBI, who have extremely skilled forensics teams of their own. If you are indicted, then perhaps you should not have left that desktop in the hands of just some of the people you so horribly mistreated? But you already knew that when you lied to the Special Agent about that, didn’t you? It’s really not a good thing to lie to a federal agent who already knows that you are lying to them little Willie, it makes them curious…very.
William Welna – “Like, how more fucked up can that get?”
R – Like, going all angry Valley Girl with the Special Agent isn’t going to improve your sterling lack of evidence of any crimes being committed by Kelly Hallissey. Nor will it help him to forget or miss any crimes that you yourself may have committed, now that you’ve gotten his curiosity aroused about you. Something tells me that you’re not going to need to call your local FBI office, they’ll hear all about it from the Special Agent while you are still fast asleep Monday morning. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to find out that the Ypsilanti and Newark field offices hear about your snotty little e-mail and blog comments towards the Special Agent and your total lack of valid evidence as well.
William Welna – “This is what I see and what am I supposed to think?”
R – That intentionally overdosing on cough medicine isn’t the brightest thing in the world? That there might be a whole bunch of reasons why nobody is paying you to think? Hint, it’s because you (and all of your little co-conspirators) really suck at it.
William Welna – “Granted it was a fruitless attempt and I think you can name off a few reasons why it was.”
R – Little Willie, the FBI has a very large workload of considerably more important cases and a reputation for thoroughness, so sometimes FBI investigations can last for a year or more, especially when the FBI’s curiosity is aroused by several people, like you and your little friends, with very obvious veracity issues.
William Welna – “All this I see all over and attempts to ruin not only my life but others as well.”
R – So you still won’t take personal responsibility for your own actions and involvement that precipitated and created the vast majority of all of this then? Just like Barrett Brown you have no one to blame but yourself, you ruined your own life long before you even targeted Kelly and I, (although I suppose in fairness and after the fact Jennifer Emick and Michelle helped you with that at least a little bit of that self life ruination).
William Welna – “I’m not doing any of this just for me but for all the others that have been targeted just like me and I will make it end.”
R – Lemme guess, all of the other people would be Jennifer Emick, Michelle, and the duped Mike Stack, right? Nary a word for the well over a dozen people that you and Jennifer Emick repeatedly and falsely accused of being The Jester, and still are? You will make it end? That’s much easier then you think little Willie, just get off the Internet. Not for a week, or a month, try years, because that’s how long it will be before everybody and anybody who reads these words forgets just how incredibly stupid and evil you really are…maybe decades even. If you are very lucky perhaps the ever so patient Special Agent won’t read that “make it end” statement as a threat.
William Welna – “That’s like arresting a kid with a plastic fly swatter for attempted murder.”
R – Analogy fail. Try again?
William Welna – “LOIC has never taken any business offline and never will.”
R – The Justice Department clearly feels otherwise (see PayPal 14 Grand Jury), and they would have a bit of expertise in determining which cases to pursue and why (Eric Holders reputation not withstanding here, at all).
William Welna – “What takes them down are the botnet operators in control of mass infected systems.”
R – LOIC *is* a voluntary botnet. Didn’t Jennifer Emick once accuse you (in the Backtrace Security Namshub release) of running a botnet for Gregg Housh, with the very same desktop that the FBI now has in its custody, the one that Gregg Housh gave you? If Emick was right about you then, then you’re going to have a very serious legal problem when the FBI gets finished with that desktop, aren’t you? If Emick was as wrong as she usually is, then why would you work with her on anything? BTW, Bitzee told me that you were required to contact the FBI twice a week, looks like that was just another of her many lies exposed.
William Welna – “I’m not excusing their actions as they are malicious but it’s really not going to do a damn thing to stop anything.”
R – That’s good, because you still have no excuse for your own actions, do you Azazel? Malicious is a very good word to describe pretty much all of your Internet activities, isn’t it little Willie? I have no doubt that the long suffering Special Agent will be glad to take your expert advice on law enforcement…not.
William Welna – “No these are not civil matters at all. Do you think I’d be mad if it was really just civil?”
R – Yes, without any valid evidence from you at all, these are all civil matters, you and Emick both with much longer on line records of malicious stalking and harassment then Neal Rauhauser could dream of should consider that. Of course you’d be mad, you spend most of your on line time fail trolling and being mad about it.
William Welna – “I am aware of the law but if you think this stuff is civil here is a wiki page that might help you.”
R – Wow, you’re sending a Wiki page to a man who’s spent most of his adult life studying and enforcing the law in a vain attempt to prove that you know more about the law then he does? You are doing an amazing job of redefining the term utter failure to even lower levels of incredibly stupid.
William Welna – “While I’m at it →”
R – Awesome, just when I think you’ve reached a new record depth, you double down on the Wiki links to a federal agent and go even deeper into terminal stupidity.
William Welna – “Also threatening to kill people including cops on a public blog is civil? Can you help explain that to me? Why is Barrett Brown arrested for it?”
R – There are no death threats to police officers or anybody else on my blog, there never were, and there never will be. Kelly doesn’t have a working blog and sometimes guest posts on my blog and I’ve never heard, read, or seen her make a death or any other kind of threat to a police officer, so I have to assume you must be talking about somebody else altogether. Jennifer Emick insisted that I take a threat to curb stomp me as out of context hyperbole, perhaps you should all take the same advice? Barrett Brown is looking at a total of fifteen different indictments (which are available on the Internet for all to read), only one of them is for issuing an undeniable threat to an FBI agent.
William Welna – “If you want to know why you can take a look at Infragard, Kelly, and Neal.”
R – Kelly is not and never has been a member of Infragard, neither have I. Kelly talked to Neal Rauhauser. Jennifer Emick talked to Neal Rauhauser far sooner and for much longer. The long suffering and extremely patient Special Agent whom you’ve repeatedly insulted and disrespected throughout this latest raging rant of yours has also talked to Neal Rauhauser. So should we leap to the conclusion that Jennifer Emick and an FBI Special Agent are in some sort of collusion with Neal Rauhauser and have been for far longer then Kelly has? Yeah, I didn’t think so…
William Welna – “I’m not dumb…”
R – Yes you are, repeating it will not change the painfully obvious facts, you demonstrate that incredible universe class dumbness very forcefully each and every single time that you post something on line.
William Welna – “…and I have copies of close to everything sent to the FBI by multiple people.”
R – Oh my little Willie, is that conspiracy to file multiple false police reports? It might just be…
William Welna – “I just don’t see how they are still walking, I really don’t.”
R – This will go far towards explaining why he’s the Special Agent and you are not.
William Welna – “I think the public is going to agree with me on this.”
R – I think you are in for a very rude shock. Nobody likes a thug and a bully, even on line, and it seems painfully obvious that Anonymous isn’t going to like you admitting that you are the internal snitch that they’ve been looking for all along.
R – Once again little Willie, you and Jennifer Emick picked the wrong man, for the wrong reasons, at the wrong time, and in the wrong place. Between releasing that e-mail chain without permission and the voluminous spew that you unleashed on Cryptome last September you’ve managed to utterly confirm everything that Kelly and I have said about you and your BFF the Studnose Stalker Jennifer Emick
William Welna – “This is pretty epic, Render64 claiming “Conservative Values”.
R – Newp, I’ve never once claimed to be a Conservative or a Neo-con, although I do share some values and political viewpoints with each of those schools of political thought.
William Welna – “I would like to know how me, a public athiest, is a conservative?”
R – You are not a conservative, nor should anybody in their sane mind ever confuse you as such. You are very clearly, by your own words, a nihilist and a Jew hater. And that is exactly the point, why would anybody claiming conservative (or any moral) values support, defend, or otherwise have anything at all to do with a flaming bag of rat feces like you?
William Welna – It’s the same as when I am “anonymous” or not, a matter of convenient accusations to appeal to others.”
R – You most certainly were a member of Anonymous and a Tier Two LulzSec member for quite some time. You just told an FBI agent on 2/10/13 that you have since re-joined Anonymous “for a few months now” and you are not sanctioned by any law enforcement so…sometimes statements of fact can be rather inconvenient for the pathological liar, can’t they?
William Welna – “Silly logic is silly indeed. I’m not political or into politics at all, labeling me as some political group because it’s convenient at the time to peddle up your bullshit aye Jesse?”
R – You were an active and extraordinarily incompetent member of Anonymous/WWP’s OpIran 2009. That’s political, and as far from any traditional conservative values as it’s possible to get. You’ve freely admitted at least twice to giving the personal information of numerous people to Islamic terrorists as a form of political intimidation, (there are numerous screen shots to support this). That’s so far beyond any form of conservative, neo-con, moderate right-wing, or even moderate left-wing American values as to be an entirely different form of politics altogether.